uknownada Talk 03:14, February 19, 2013 (UTC), Neither image says it. All orders are … sff9 12:32, January 12, 2013, I'm not sure about how long we should wait, but from what I can tell, the "belly" romanization is correct. Saved by Archonia.US. Get up to 50% off. Are you trying to disprove the existence of the wind in the first place, SeaTerror? Nice speculation with no actual evidence. The BE is just not there and anybody who claims so is flat out lying. Arlong telah sepakat dengan Nami bahwa ia hanya harus membawa 100,000,000 untuk membeli desanya dari arlong, yang ia membutuhkan 8 tahun untuk mengumpulkan dan hampir berhasil mencapai tujuan hanya dengan merampok mengetahui mereka memiliki akses kekayaan lebih banyak dari pada warga biasa. atau biasa di sebut juga Belly, yang diwakili oleh tanda adalah unit mata uang moneter di Dunia One Piece. In fact, counting you and me, Galaxy, that makes 5. Anybody can do that. So even if you happen to be right about the color (which is making more assumptions than looking at the cover and seeing the belly bills and the paint tubes), you are not right in removing the information, as it only needed to be worded differently.StoopidGuy (talk) 19:08, August 14, 2020 (UTC), Yes there are bills but there's no evidence that they came from the paint can itself. Using "Currency" would only work if we used the symbol image through out the wiki on everything. It's not speculation. Dia adalah satu-satunya di desanya tidak mampu membayar penuh Arlong pada saat kedatangannya, 100,000 per orang dewasa, 50,000 per anak), dan Arlong terus menuntut jumlah ini secara teratur dari warga Desa Cocoyasi mengakibatkan perjuangan untuk membayar sejumlah ini untuk menghindari orang yang dibunuh oleh Arlong. Asking him certainly couldn't hurt. A lot of this discussion no longer exists, much like the evidence for things back in 2006, because good old wikipedia destroyed half of our early works while we were still sorting out the transfer from wikipedia to wikia. There's a chance that this card is included in the ~DS Collection~ Official Card Pack. Wikia One Piece adalah Anime FANDOM Komunitas. Therefore I'd go with that myself. uknownada Talk 20:14, February 19, 2013 (UTC), Or don't. There is no evidence at all that that's where the bills came from. Also why do they have a similar curvature to the leaves that are also flying with the wind (with the uppermost part leaning to the left)? Even without the edit, I think most of the people here can make out the "Belly". Free Shipping Worldwide Up to 80% Discount 3300+ Customer Reviews Safe Payments Accepted Money Back Guaranteed Either way, its worth noting here. Yes paint cans with the paint on the label is totally zero evidence since they clearly do not exist in any form in fiction or real life. Anime Figures Action Figures Aztec Sweater Pirate Skull Gundam Model One Piece Anime Birthday Shirts Primary Colors Pirates. uknownada Talk 19:52, February 18, 2013 (UTC), http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EnhanceButton Says it all. Dragonus Nesha (talk) 13:47, August 15, 2020 (UTC), The official English alternate spelling. Maybe it's just you. Gymboree So Berry Cute Romper One-Piece Size 0-3 Months as shown New with tag from a smoke-free home. That is not obvious at all, and it is a fringe interpretation. Give me one or two weeks. Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time! The raw uses kanji both for names and the word beli. RELATED: One Piece: 10 Differences Between The Anime And The Manga If this is met with no resistance, I will undo the edit. Dragonus Nesha (talk) 20:03, August 15, 2020 (UTC), SeaTerror, your evidence for it being a paint can - "he's painting, also "berry" may be used as a color. But you're right, the manga has higher priority of what we use. SeaTerror (talk) 18:16, August 17, 2020 (UTC), The money floating away is irrelevant since there is money visibly in the can. The differences are slight enough that it is clear Oda intended it to be belly. People hear or see something that doesn't exist only because other people claim it is there. Le Berry, représenté par le symbole, est la monnaie principale utilisée dans l'univers de One Piece. If you want I can upload the raw, but I believed we needed the English words in this one. Namun, untuk seorang Bangsawan Dunia, tawaran 500,000,000 tampaknya menjadi jumlah yang signifikan kepada ketika Saint Charloss menawarkan harga tersebut di Gedung Pelelangan Manusia. You claiming the bills are flying from it is pure speculation on your part. SeaTerror (talk) 19:57, February 18, 2013 (UTC), Do you know what contrast is? It is that simple. One Piece: Aim! Also editing contrast on an art image means it is edited. JustSomeDude...  Talk | 18:41, February 19, 2013 (UTC), Because you are seeing what you WANT to see. Unique One Piece Symbol Stickers designed and sold by artists. My ban forum was only opened because of a grudge (at least the last time.) Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 03:10, August 14, 2020 (UTC). I know editors want to always be accurate here and based on that image you have decided "lly" is correct, but there were a few other older images contradicting this that have long since been lost/forgotten and I don't know they are in relation to Oda's work nor desire to bring them up at this point. Where did he romanize it as Beri? You even acknowledge that the last 3 letters are visible, so if anything is speculative, it isn't "Belly". Cause except if someone is willing to scrutinize every single page in the manga looking for a "Berry" or "Beli" romanization, we cannot leave the page with an unsourced title for years… sff9 17:02, January 12, 2013, Luckily, since I'm hunting quotes for a little project of mine on my wiki, I'm currently going through the whole series. By the way, it's not like George Black because here we can(not) see the first two letters, but we can clearly see "...lly", so that's exclude without doubts Beli, Belli, Berry, Beri. Oh, the irony. Still, I don't know where "beli" comes from. One Piece Patch - Whitebeard Pirates Skull Symbol. leviathan_89 00:22, 4 May, 2012 (UTC), I don't think so. Factory Direct Craft offers a wide unique selection of quality pip berry garlands, sprays, and wreaths. However, in Japanese, there is no "real" 'l' or 'r' sounds, so it would sound like something between 'r' in 'rock' and 'l' in 'lock'. That's how wind works. SeaTerror (talk) 18:50, August 14, 2020 (UTC), I provided enough evidence and I exposed my arguments on the topic, yet I haven't seen you trying to counter their validity, only small nitpicks that were easily countered. Reminds me of all the people claiming that playing Stairway to Heaven backwards contains satanic lyrics. https://onepiece.fandom.com/id/wiki/Berry?oldid=18101. SeaTerror (talk) 18:42, August 15, 2020 (UTC), "Berry" is present in the Japanese version, too. I can't find an example with high enough quality to read. During that time, fans have developed plenty of theories regarding the series' plot and its characters. {{leviathan_89 | 16:34, 29 March, 2020 (UTC)}}. Letting her confidence shine bright like pink dynamite! We can see everything, so obviously it's not "seeing what I want to see". Maybe she can explain where Beli comes from. This conversation should be over. Discussion is closed when the subject matter is resolved. leviathan_89 11:06, 19 February, 2013 (UTC), The image was only uploaded to show that the banknote said "SOMETHING" You cannot see a "BE" because there is a dark smudge. {{Qref|cover=78|Usopp's collection tin is labeled "Berry". She is a wild soul.. with a sweet heart! The same applied for "Belly" and "Berry". leviathan_89 23:08, 18 February, 2013 (UTC), I never said it wasn't. People are seeing something that is not there when all there is is a smudge. Directly to the right of the can, we see a box with actual paint tubes." It looks like a dollar but it also comes in coin forms and its sign is similar to the dollar but with a b instead of an s. uknownada Talk 00:11, January 4, 2013 (UTC), There is no romanization in that SBS. It's not speculation, it's a simple fact. Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing. leviathan_89 22:13, 18 February, 2013 (UTC), We have more than enough evidence that it's belly from images that weren't compromised. I think it's time to remove it from the article. You cannot see the full text of either image regardless meaning it cannot be used. Don't try to be the speculation knight and don't bring up the fact I zoomed in, if you want I cannot zoom in at all, the zoom I used didn't altered the image at all, but it's not my image the issue here. It could be an error, though. Sewil 8:04, 3/1/13, I don't actually know. On the edited version that is. Berry Dog Swimwear. $7.99. Galaxy 9000   21:19, February 18, 2013 (UTC), The official English version, at least in the FUNimation dub, is "Berry". Make sure this fits by entering your model number. leviathan_89 23:37, 17 February, 2013 (UTC), We'll keep it at Beli. We are completely lovestruck by this vibrant berry pink and white floral bikini. When one user refuses to let things resolve, then problems are created. "correct" spelling of beli/beri/berry. Berry (ベリー, , berry?) SeaTerror (talk) 09:36, August 13, 2020 (UTC). The story always touch my heart, it is a combination of faithful friendship, laughter, loyalty and action. Plus in that you can't make out a B or a beli symbol or an E. It would be pure speculation to rename it to Belly due to that image. Even I can see the "Belly" without Leviathan's high contrast image. "Beri"(ベリー, "Beri"?) SeaTerror (talk) 06:38, August 15, 2020 (UTC), It's an alternate spelling for the currency. Find one piece swimwear, you can shop cute one piece swimsuits and cheap one piece bathing suit in various styles at BerryLook.com with low price. Children’s clothes on Redbubble are expertly printed on ethically sourced apparel and are available in a range of colors and sizes. Sampai sekarang, dua mata uang seperti yang disebutkan: Mata uang seperti yang digambarkan dalam spesial Boss Luffy, perhatikan dalam hal tertentu uang itu ternyata palsu. IIRC "Belly" was up until now the only romanization properly cited in the original manga (beside adaptations), so now we have another one. There is just a dark smudge. Since Leviathan_89 uploaded it, we'd need his answer. uknownada Talk 19:38, February 18, 2013 (UTC), I'm 1000% sure it's not Belly but is Beils, Caring16:) (talk) 03:26, October 22, 2013 (UTC), On what basis? StoopidGuy (talk) 20:46, August 16, 2020 (UTC), That's still assuming that's where the money came from when there's no evidence of that. One-Winged Hawk 01:34, March 18, 2010 (UTC), Information about Gor has been here for rather long time, but still nobody provided a confirmation. That is how wind works. uknownada Talk 00:35, February 19, 2013 (UTC), No the image is clear enough that "lly" is visible. There is zero evidence the paint can is associated with money. He is stationed in the headquarters of the Marines, one of the 3 major powers that maintain the balance of the world. As for renaming it "Currency", the page is mostly focused on Bellies and the other currency is only in one section, so it's not really significant enough to rename "Currency" if we're only going to focus on one. The currency has only been romanized as one way with the currency bill. The actress works out with trainer Peter Lee Thomas. And before you say the contrast image shouldn't be used, I'll just tell you once again that that image is only used to help you see. You also fail to see that your argument is not based on any clue on the cover itself, you needed to talk about unrelated events like strong winds in real life - even though I showed how everything was going to the left and you did not even try to disprove that (also because it's impossible). You cannot see what part of it says therefore it should not be used as a "fact". So since "being able to read it" is not something that can be proven for you and everybody but you can read it, get over it. Not to mention it's only clear on the edited version. One Piece Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. So since it was spelled "Belly" in the manga, that's what we use. uknownada Talk 20:23, February 18, 2013 (UTC), No it isn't. I'm pretty sure "belly" is one of the least popular spellings for beli/beri/berries, for the obvious reason that it looks the funniest. Unless we go with your own logic and that the leaves also came from the can since apparently you think that's where everything came from while being blown by the wind. Never used by Oda himself. 5 out of 5 stars (1,551) 1,551 reviews $ 25.50. Updated Aug 24, 2019. Free Download. There is no evidence for that claim. 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One way to find these companies is by looking at several key metrics and financial ratios, many of which are crucial in the value stock selection process. Ketika Oda membahas merek Doskoi Panda, ia menyebutkan bahwa merek itu sangat mahal. This game takes place from first arc in the story to the Baroque Works Saga. That's all it comes down to. Beli telah ada unit pecahan. The one in chapter 141, is in the first page where Hiluluk is counting his money, but that was just a doubt of mine (I though it was possible to see an "I", but not the whole word anyway), it doesn't looks like any word is present on the bill... Beli telah ada unit pecahan. Basically, "Beli" was chosen because in the wikipedia days (this is waaaay back in 2006) there was no solid evidence to say what it was. I might have missed it, but can you clarify where it's at? SeaTerror (talk) 22:21, August 18, 2020 (UTC). I can't remember. Galaxy 9000   21:01, February 18, 2013 (UTC), No you can't. Galaxy 9000   20:39, February 18, 2013 (UTC), What matters is that there may be another romanization somewhere else that you are overlooking. Anyhow, I uploaded an high-contrast version, you can clearly read "...elly", the "B" is a bit unclear, but you can also see the decoration typical of , basically it's written "elly". Also I think you need to look up in the dictionary the word "fact". Sewil 7:52, 3/1/13, But which romanization is his latest? Report Font. And as Nada says, it can be seen in the unaltered image anyways. Ayahnya hanya mengatakan 'buang-buang uang,' saja menunjukkan bahwa mereka memiliki kekayaan bahkan lebih dari ini dan sementara jumlah ini masih dianggap sia sia, itu berarti mereka tidak berada pada skala yang sama dari masalah keuangan sebagaian warga di dunia. It may takes a while, but I'll keep an eye open for this too, if when I'll be done I won't find any clue, we will come to a decision then. {{leviathan_89 | 01:38, 29 March, 2020 (UTC)}}, I personally prefer berry, but would lean toward keeping Belly since its spelling was more recent. Since the translation/dub section says it was also spelled "Berry" I guess that was later on. Use the high contrast image and a pair of glasses to help you see. Dalam penampilan dan denominasi, yang Bellyi mirip dengan, Simbol Belly 'mirip baht Thailand: ฿ (baht)/. JustSomeDude...  Talk | 03:02, February 19, 2013 (UTC), I changed the main image to the image that cannot be read image of Nami holding a bill. At this point, there's still no evidence that "Beli" was ever a romanization, and that's what most of this discussion was about. It's funny how you claim you can see anything from a dark smudge yet have not even tried to prove the non-existent "BE" even exists. @Levi and JSD: I understand, that's why I asked "how long?". Sea, you still haven't explain why "Beli" is not speculative, since it didn't appear anywhere in the series. Besides, if he never spells it as "Beli", that technically makes this article fan-named. White or transparent. Also paint cans are used for large structures.". I will note though about the past discussion... We were still seeing the legacy of 4Kids and therefore there *may* had been some resentment towards use of certain words ("Navy" has always been one) because of it. leviathan_89 11:35, 18 February, 2013 (UTC), I honestly think we have enough to justify moving it to belly.DancePowderer Talk 14:45, February 18, 2013 (UTC), Agreed, the only reason we waited was to find other options, but we weren't that lucky. The conclusion is this: the evidence is the general movement of the wind is to the left, and as the bills are flowing either into the can (to the right) or from the can (to the left), there's more evidence for the bills coming from the can than the contrary. And that's not a paint can. uknownada Talk 22:48, February 18, 2013 (UTC), It isn't visible at all. The only thing you can see in either image is a dark smudge. It is not there. They might have changed it in the subs; FUNimation often changes the localizations on their subs, but that's not important. I'd also add that paint cans are predominantly for painting structures, not pictures on a canvas. BUT I will not rule out all other spelling (Beli, Beri, Berry, Belly) because I had this discussion in the past about the spelling. leviathan_89 20:08, 18 February, 2013 (UTC), Because you cannot read the entire image it cannot be relied on. Complete blatant speculation. I can also try changing "Beri" to "Beli". But the point that even you, ST, can read at least "...lly" which exclude without doubts Berry, Beri, Belli and Beli. Homophones: bury, Barry (in accents with the Mary–marry–merry merger) Again, you're the only one still arguing here.DancePowderer Talk 20:30, February 19, 2013 (UTC), The high contrast image was edited and can't be used. At least, the "E" is. El Chupacabra 18:27, January 21, 2010 (UTC), Well I tried to create a sort of "Stepping stone" system of note on this page to indicate what is from poorest to richest 'wealth' but I need someone to give a second opinion on this. Either way it still is a dark smudge in that image too. He edited the image so it's easier to see for the discussion. SeaTerror (talk) 20:08, August 14, 2020 (UTC), There's also no evidence that that's a paint can. You can use sprays to create bold and creative floral arrangements. I'm late but I'll quickly explain what I explained on the chat. Note that the belly notes' flow directs us exactly to the can, as if they've come from there and were carried by the wind that is going to the left. It's to assist you in the discussion, as you're the only one who needs help. JustSomeDude...  Talk | 16:54, January 12, 2013 (UTC), @DP: in the raw I got, it is unambiguously "Belly". It says DARKSMUDGELLY. Top Rated One Piece Merchandise Shop with Action Figures, Anime Clothing, Hoodies, T-Shirts, Costumes, Hats, Caps, Bags, Jewelry, Wanted Posters, Tattoos, Game Cards, Gifts & Much More. What we need is someone who has seen "Beli" and to confirm "Beli" was written by Oda. I think we need to find out that one first, because if it's more recent it makes more sense using "Berry". SeaTerror (talk) 21:01, February 18, 2013 (UTC), From what I watched last night, I saw Belly. SeaTerror 17:55, October 9, 2010 (UTC), I cannot really tell, but isn't Amazon holding some extols in her hand in the cover of chapter 645? These and other great swimsuit fashions are available from BerryDog. Dalam spesial Boss Luffy, mata uang Rio-beli digunakan. Well unless you want more speculation on the wiki. My point is that there may be other sources for different spellings that we should look into since searching the manga has proved fruitless. SeaTerror (talk) 01:45, February 18, 2013 (UTC), Can someone upload an image of this bill from 141? They look more like coupons if anything. It doesn't look like one to me, but I cannot say it for sure. You're just dismissing clear evidence in the cover to support a fringe interpretation you personally have, even though there's more than enough evidence to determine yours is not the interpretation the cover is providing. Think of it as a a subliminal message where if somebody tells you something and you believe it only because you were influenced by that person into thinking it is there. リ Is kana for "ri". uknownada Talk 16:39, March 1, 2013 (UTC), I have found another romanization: you can read "Berry" on the cup on Chapter 78's cover. Then we have also to figure out where Beli comes from. Kayu Langka Adam, yang dijual di pasar gelap bisa mencapai harga sekitar 200,000,000. uknownada Talk 01:36, February 18, 2013 (UTC), The only thing that note says is 10,000 SeaTerror (talk) 01:38, February 18, 2013 (UTC), Belly. Media in category "One Piece symbols" The following 10 files are in this category, out of 10 total. It did not alter the image in a way that could change how the image looks, only highlight the difference between the background colors and the word. Juga, sementara batasan bounty tidak diketahui, jumlah dikenal tertinggi untuk bounty adalah Monkey D. Luffy dengan bounty sebesar 400.000.000. Contact About ONE PIECE Font. It's a money-collection tin can, not a paint can. This one is a little older then "Belly" found on the actual bill in chapter 95, but it's probably more commonly used among fans. It happens all the time. This item will ship to United States, but the seller has not specified shipping options. If this is true, then why isn't the name of the article "Berry"? D'autres monnaies existent telles l' Exstol (îles célestes) et le Gor (Amazon Lily). "We have more than enough evidence that it's belly from images that weren't compromised." Also your counter about the wind is only valid when you provide any clue from the cover for any object vulnerable to the wind moving to the right. Sengoku, Monkey D. Garp, Zephyr (shown in One Piece Film Z) and Tsuru joined the Marines at the same time. Don't rush it though, we can leave it as is for a few weeks… sff9 18:33, January 12, 2013, Ok I finally read all chapters again... and sadly, I didn't find any image with other romanizations aside the one from chapter 95. Dragonus Nesha (talk) 19:52, August 17, 2020 (UTC), No there isn't. Now, with that silly argument out of the way and with a majority favoring the inclusion of a note, I propose adding this version: **The romanizaton "Berry" does appear in a cover illustration; however, it is part of the non-canon [[Cover Page#Animal Theater|Animal Theater cover series]]. uknownada Talk 23:55, February 17, 2013 (UTC), The only image says Beri and not Belly. :) leviathan_89 18:00, 12 January, 2013 (UTC). Publisher is GE Animation. What are we gonna do? leviathan_89 16:39, 12 January, 2013 (UTC), Yeah, I agree with Levi, we should try and find the other romanizations before we rename the page. S… That's the lid of the can. So it's an evidence that at least those romanizations are wrong, if other images don't come up that means those are the speculations, not Belly. leviathan_89 18:23, 12 January, 2013 (UTC), @Levi: oh, that's great then. SeaTerror (talk) 18:37, February 19, 2013 (UTC), It's not speculation if you can read it. leviathan_89 16:52, 18 February, 2013 (UTC), The image where "Belly" was shown doesn't actually exist since you cannot make out what it says exactly. Only the last 3 letters are even visible. So please, find the "E". Which is the whole point of this discussion. SeaTerror (talk) 19:50, February 18, 2013 (UTC), Most of us can see the "Belly". You clearly do not understand what wind is. He used to be the Fleet Admiral and is currently a supervisor who trains and instructs junior Marines. Its the correct name after all. Not to mention your argument is nothing more than a basic assumption. The other letters do not exist because you cannot see them due to the dark smudge. SeaTerror (talk) 03:44, February 19, 2013 (UTC), I can't tell if I'm supposed to take that comment seriously, so I'll just assume the discussion is closed. Ketika mereka kehilangan 200,000,000 untuk Keluarga Franky mereka mencatat 100, 000,000 beri yg tersisa masih cukup untuk membeli sebuah kapal bekas yang layak untuk melanjutkan perjalanan mereka, meskipun dgn jumlah awal mereka akan membeli mereka kapal baru yg jauh lebih baik kualitasnya. And even if you have one, all the other objects that show any clear indication of direction are moving to the left (I've shown several in the first comment here). Your "deduction" is nothing but speculation. Now you come out saying that you cannot read it? The issue with this image is the word Belly doesn't exist since it is speculation to say that a BE is where a dark smudge is. It means the image is edited and cannot be relied on. Some people might find this manga as silly and pointless (I’ve heard this before) but they never truly read the … leviathan_89 23:46, 3 January, 2013 (UTC), But which one did Oda actually romanize it as, if at all? leviathan_89 16:54, 10 January, 2013 (UTC), How long should we wait before renaming the page? Or you choose to not admit that you can see it, because doing so would not only admit that you're wrong but also admit that you can see something you don't want to. Regular Style. Claiming that they came from the paint can is speculation. SeaTerror (talk) 04:08, February 19, 2013 (UTC), I've been saying either one is actually speculation. }}, It addresses the small inconsistency from over 20 years ago and heads off any future squabbling about the canon spelling. After 22 years, Oda confirmed that only 80 per cent of the series has been completed so far. It's something you can adjust on your TV, not some magical zoom-in "enhancement". And things get resolved when most users agree on an issue. We know this because it is a street sale with various paintings being showcased, because of belly notes flying and due to the price shown above Usopp. If the page is fine as it is, you can remove the active discussion. YolkaEd 18:19, 7 April 2008 (UTC) (Luckily, it shouldn't appear a lot on the wiki, since Mugiwara Franky introduced the symbol for that very reason.) We can keep it like this just until a RAW version of the various coins and bills image can be acquired, or until somebody edits it with "Belly". Well, through all this discussion you just said that you wasn't able to read it and just denied everybody's else points without saying more. Like my example of Stairway to Heaven from earlier. I left a message to Angel Emfrbl‎ since in the third discussion in this same talk page, she mentions some debate on Wikipedia.